that can be laying the ground work for a potential hillary clinton run in 2016. instead of them talking about what's going on in the economy now, you hear them harkin back to the good old days, the golden years of a way of enticing voters and getting them riled up as opposed to focusing on near-term policy issues. >> there's been a lot of talk from this administration and others around the globe, we have to do more to support smaller companies. they're the job creators and the drivers of growth. are the small businessmen, the smaller companies, now hiring or not? >> it appears that they are. when we looked at the reports from adt yesterday, what we did see is that the smaller companies are hiring the indicators again, the surveys of small businesses indicate they're hiring but doing so cautiously. they don't want to get too far ahead of where the economy is, but they are confident that in the near term, they can justify a higher payroll count. >> thanks for that, patrick. good to see you as always. leanne, thank you as well. financial reporter at "the washington